What most Latter-day Saints have been taught in church and
believe as truth.
Significant details &
problems that most Latter-day Saints are not aware of.
Responses to these issues by faithful Latter-day
Saints and
What most Latter-day Saints have been
taught in church and believe as truth.
Joseph Smith Jr. is credited with at least some translation work on five different ancient writings. They are:
3) Retranslation of selected passages of the Holy Bible
5) Greek Psalter
The most notable translation is of course the Book of Mormon. As the angel took back the gold plates from which the BOM was translated there really is nothing to look at to determine the accuracy of Joseph’s translating ability of the BOM. However since Joseph translated some other documents as well it’s prudent to examine whatever source documents that may exist for those translations. If it can be proved that Joseph translated other ancient documents correctly, when he would have no knowledge of how to do so, it would go a long way to help validate Joseph’s ability as a seer and translator.
Most LDS are of course familiar with the first three translations. And some LDS are somewhat familiar with the Kinderhook Plates but very, very few members are aware of Joseph’s encounter with a Greek Psalter in 1842.
Significant details
& problems that most Latter-day Saints are not aware of.
Summary of event
Professor Henry Caswall,
a professor and skeptic of Joseph Smith, visited Joseph on April 19, 1842. He gave Joseph Smith a very old Greek Psalter
to examine and asked him what it was. (A
Psalter is a volume containing the Book of Psalms and which often contains
other devotional material. In the early
Middle Ages Psalters were amongst the most popular types of manuscripts,
rivaled only by the Gospel Books. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psalter
Joseph of course translated the Book of Mormon from Reformed Egyptian
and he also translated the Book of
Abraham from Egyptian papyri so he apparently knew Egyptian well enough to
translate it and professor Caswall wanted to see what he thought about this
ancient Greek manuscript.
Joseph examined the ancient document
and replied that it was a Dictionary of Ancient Egyptian Hieroglyphics. Professor Caswall of course knew Joseph was
wrong as this was a known Greek Psalter and definitely not Egyptian.
Professor Caswall then informed the
Prophet that it was but a plain Greek Psalter.
Joseph then left the scene.
Professor Caswall told this incident to Mormon apostle Dr. William Richards who said “Sometimes Mr. Smith speaks as mere man. If he gave a wrong opinion respecting the book, he spoke as a mere man.”
Several people reportedly witnessed the event as illustrated below in a book published by Professor Caswall which discusses the incident:

Here is the actual account as shown in the newspaper from 1843:
|
THE MORMON PROPHET AND We lately heard a story, which while it may make us mourn
over the depravity of Human Nature, serves to show, among many similar facts,
the low artifices and cunning tricks, to which the Mormon Prophet will
resort, in order to impose upon the gullibility of his followers. The story
is in this wise; and can be substantiated by respectable witnesses. |
From An Insider’s View of Mormon Origins,
Grant Palmer pp. 34-36:
Henry Caswall’s experience with Joseph Smith at Nauvoo on
18-19 April 1842 expresses the frustration of an increasing number of LDS
students with Joseph’s ability to translate ancient documents. Caswall was a visiting minister from
He asked me if I had any idea of its meaning. I replied, that I believed it to be a Greek Psalter; but that I should like to hear his opinion. “No”, he said; “it ain’t Greek at all; except, perhaps, a few words… This book is very valuable. It is a dictionary of Egyptian hieroglyphics.” Pointing to the capital letters at the commencement of each verse, he said: “Them figures is Egyptian hieroglyphics; and them which follows, is the interpretation of the hieroglyphics, written in the reformed Egyptian. Them characters is like the letters that was engraven on the golden plates.”
Caswall told this incident to Dr. Willard Richards, a Mormon apostle, to which the Mormon doctor said, “Sometimes Mr. Smith speaks as a prophet, and sometimes as a mere man. If he gave a wrong opinion respecting the book, he spoke as a mere man.” I said, “Whether he spoke as a prophet or as a mere man, he has committed himself, for he has said what is not true. If he spoke as a prophet, therefore , he is a false prophet. If he spoke as a mere man, he cannot be trusted, for he spoke positively and like an oracle respecting that which he knew nothing.”
While it is true that we have only Caswall’s view of this incident, it is consistent with Joseph’s pattern of rather quickly determining the value and content of unknown documents that were presented to him.
Three Days in
Nauvoo
Professor Caswall published a book called Three Days in Nauvoo. It discusses Professor Caswall’s journey to Nauvoo to learn about the Latter-day Saint peoples that lived there and to met the prophet to obtain his opinion regarding the Greek Psalter. The book in it’s entirety can be read here:
http://www.olivercowdery.com/smithhome/1840s/1842Cas1.htm
Here’s a few excerpts from Three Days in Nauvoo:
In order to test the scholarship of the prophet, I had further provided myself with an ancient Greek manuscript of the Psalter written upon parchment, and probably about six hundred years old…
On the following morning (Monday, April 18th), I took my venerable Greek manuscript of the Psalter, and proceeded to the ferry to obtain a passage…
Perceiving a respectable-looking store (or shop), I entered it, and began to converse with the storekeeper. I mentioned that I had been informed that Mr. Smith possessed some remarkable Egyptian curiosities, which I wished to see. I added that, if Mr. Smith could be induced to show me his treasures, I would show him in return a very wonderful book which had lately come into my possession.
The storekeeper informed me
that Mr. Smith was absent, having gone to
Looking at me with a
patronizing air, he assured me that I had brought it to the right place to get
it interpreted, for that none on earth but the Lord's Prophet could explain it,
or unfold its real antiquity and value. "Oh," I replied, "I am
going to
At length I yielded to their importunities, and promised that if they would bring me over from Montrose on the following morning, I would exhibit the book to the prophet…
The storekeeper now proceeded
to redeem his promise of obtaining for me access to the curiosities. He led the
way to a room behind his store, on the door of which was an inscription to the
following effect: "Office of Joseph Smith, President of the
Responses to these issues by faithful
Latter-day Saints and LDS apologists.
Per the Foundation
for Ancient Research and Mormon Studies (FARMS)
In a review of Grant Palmer’s book An Insider’s View of Mormon Origins, the most prominent pro-LDS organization, the Foundation for Ancient Research and Mormon Studies (FARMS) issued the following in response to the Greek Psalter incident:
Caswall wrote that when he challenged Latter-day Saint
apostle Willard Richards with Smith's mistaken identification, Richards
responded that "sometimes Mr. Smith speaks as a prophet, and sometimes as
a mere man." Knowing
that Smith had a great interest in languages and studied them when he could, Richards
understood this, but Caswall failed to grasp the distinction. Apparently Palmer struggles with the
distinction as well. He takes the
episode as evidence against Joseph's ability to translate anything.
http://www.farmsresearch.com/display.php?table=review&id=513
Our Comment: According to the most pro-LDS organization there is, they don’t seem to question that the Greek Psalter incident took place as described. However they support apostle Richard’s assertion that Joseph was just speaking as a man and that Joseph only gave his scholarly opinion to Caswall thus not really harming Joseph’s credibility as a prophet, seer and translator.
Critic’s response.
We support professor Caswall’s response to Joseph’s error: “Whether he spoke as a prophet or as a mere man, he has committed himself, for he has said what is not true. If he spoke as a prophet, therefore , he is a false prophet. If he spoke as a mere man, he cannot be trusted, for he spoke positively and like an oracle respecting that which he knew nothing.”
When Joseph speaks and leads others to assume he is speaking as a prophet then he needs to be accountable for what he says. It’s very convenient to say Joseph speaks as a man whenever he’s proved wrong and as a prophet whenever his statements can’t be proven right or wrong or haven’t been proven one way or the other yet.
Joseph Smith did the exact same thing with the Greek Psalter that he did with the Book of Abraham papyri and the Kinderhook plates. He saw an ancient document, one that he assumed no one in the world could translate and he said that he could translate it and he said what it was. And he was just as wrong with the Greek Psalter as he was with the Book of Abraham papyri and the Kinderhook plates.
We could only wonder what Joseph would have done if professor Caswall would have given this document to Joseph saying instead that he thought it was an ancient religious document as opposed to a Greek Psalter. Would Joseph have come up with additional scripture that would also have some bizarre explanation like the Book of Abraham or the Kinderhook Plates?
Did this
event even happen?
When researching this incident we can’t help but wonder if the event actually occurred as there is so little corroborating evidence of the event and the primary source is professor Caswall himself. We list the following things that support and do not support the event:
Evidence
against the event
1) Grant Palmer’s admission that we only have professor Caswall’s view of the event.
2) Professor Caswall was a Reverend and critic of the Church and was looking to find information to disprove Mormonism and its founder.
Evidence
supporting the event
1) Professor Caswall’s account as shown. As a Church we put a lot of stock in the testimony of others so why dismiss someone else’s testimony of events so easily merely because it is critical of the Church.
2) As pointed out by Grant Palmer, it is consistent with Joseph’s pattern of rather quickly determining the value and content of unknown documents that were presented to him.
3) The newspaper account published the following year.
4) The book published by Caswall called Three Days in Nauvoo.
5) The artist’s depiction of the event published in Three Days in Nauvoo.
6) The articles or accounts of the event were never disputed by apostle Dr. Willard Richards or Joseph Smith or by any other Church member after the event was published. Surely if Caswall never even talked to Richards, the apostle would have disputed it. And if Caswall did tell apostle Richards about the incident, surely the apostle would have mentioned it to Joseph and if the event never occurred Joseph would have refuted it but he never did.
7) The
Foundation for Ancient Research and Mormon Studies (FARMS), which is located at
Our conclusion is that the event likely happened in some form as this seems like a lot of trouble for professor Caswall to go to i.e. publishing the story, getting a cartoonist to sketch the event, fabricating a follow-up discussion with an apostle about the incident, etc. Also, if even FARMS does not dispute the event took place then why should we?
Professor Caswall likely exaggerated and perhaps embellished some details like Joseph’s grammar to make Joseph seem even more ignorant but based on the above it seems likely that the event probably happened pretty much as Caswall related.
How damaging is
this?
If this was the only translation issue that was damaging to the prophet then we would dismiss it as it wasn’t really a translation even if Joseph was in error as to the identification of the document.
However given the more substantial translation problems identified by critics with the Book of Abraham, Kinderhook Plates and the Joseph Smith translation of the Bible, the Greek Psalter incident needs to be scrutinized as well to look for any evidence that Joseph was really an accurate seer and translator.
If Joseph really translated the Book of Mormon from reformed Egyptian characters and if he really
translated the Book of Abraham from Egyptian papyri then he would know what
Egyptian characters are and what they meant.
Some defenders of the faith have said that some Greek characters are
similar in appearance to some Egyptian Hieroglyphics. That may be true (we haven’t studied this to
validate this claim). However since
Joseph translated two whole books (over 500 pages) from reformed Egyptian and
ancient Egyptian characters, he would have known that the Greek writings were
not a Dictionary of Ancient Egyptian Hieroglyphics. His failure to recognize this casts doubt on
his ability to translate ancient Egyptian or reformed Egyptian characters.
Although the Greek Psalter incident is the translation effort with the least amount of significance, it further damages Joseph’s claims to be a true seer. It’s hard for many of us that have analyzed the accounts of all of the ancient writings that Joseph claimed to have translated to accept the fact that all of Joseph’s translations that can be proven as accurate have all been proven to be incorrect. If nothing else, it was another opportunity for Joseph to prove himself to be a seer but he did not.
There is a difference between an
isolated incident and a pattern. The Greek Psalter, Book of Abraham, Kinderhook Plates, and some would add the Book of Mormon (DNA evidence,
anachronisms, lack of archaeological, anthropological, cultural, linguistic,
and metallurgical evidence to support claims), reveal a disturbing pattern in
Joseph Smith’s methods and perhaps his character. The testimony of his
mother about his ability to spontaneously make up stories about ancient
inhabitants of the Americas and the story he made up about Zelph the White
Lamanite while on the Zion’s Camp March to Missouri are consistent with this
pattern. He seemed unable to resist the opportunity to appear as an
expert whether he was qualified to offer expert analysis or not. This
pattern of deception can also be seen in his tendency to use prevarication to
cover up his polygamous activities. It raises serious questions in those
who are fair minded and objective about Joseph Smith’s believability and
credibility.
Supporting the critics:
An Insider’s View of Mormon Origins, Grant Palmer, pages 34-36.
Reference: http://www.sidneyrigdon.com/dbroadhu/IL/sign1843.htm scroll to near the bottom for section called ‘THE MORMON PROPHET AND THE GREEK PSALTER.’
Supporting the church:
http://www.farmsresearch.com/display.php?table=review&id=513
Also, it looks like Hugh Nibley may have done some research into the story. We haven't been able to find it but, here’s the citation. Hugh Nibley, "The Greek Psalter Mystery or Mr. Caswall Meets the Press," in Tinkling Symbols and Sounding Brass, 11:304-406. He probably argues the LDS apologist side better than anyone could.